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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| Celtic Dragon wrote: | GNAS rounds were (IIRC) 60cm faces, as slong as the correct number of arrows were shot it didn't matter.
Atleast when I did it that as the case, mind you it has been 15 years since I shot a GNAS round. |
Yes for the tournament rounds shot at a single face, it doesn't matter, well except you have to use the same arrows each end, and inform the judge if you have to change one for any reason.
However, as I said a lot of the Multispot face tournaments require you to hit the correct spot with the correct arrow.
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Celtic Dragon Apprentice Bowman
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Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:39 am Post subject: |
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Opps found what I'm looking for.
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Good topic Bernie - as I've been pulled into the Judging trap too (although I will insist on judging indoors only - love outside too much to waste time being a judge on those ones).
The high draw one is a cracker - and deadly if you consider target 24 at our Castlewellan Shoot. If someone does a high draw there - the groups who've just sat down for lunch will get a nasty surprise if some idiot insists on high draws at downhill targets .....
Would be nice if it were certain archers though Wonder if it could be arranged ... tee heee hee.
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Bushy Moderator

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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:29 am Post subject: |
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it depends what you declare a high draw I T-draw which means when i anchor I am usually at the top of the target
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Mjollnir Grand Master Bowman

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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:45 am Post subject: |
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| Bushy wrote: | | it depends what you declare a high draw I T-draw which means when i anchor I am usually at the top of the target |
Ultimately it is down to the judges descrection. The rule is their to stop an arrow massively overshooting a target if accidentally released mid draw. Therefore, general rule of thumb is if the bow hand is higher than the shoulder, but this doesn't work for all cases, so a little common sense is called for. For example, if you are pulling a light poundage, you may need to aim high to reach your target. You may have a draw technique where both your bow arm and draw arm start high at the same level, an drop at the same rate as you draw, thus the arrow never points skyward. Equally if you are shooting down hill a shoulder level bow arm is too high and therefore dangerous. So as I said it is ultimately up to the Judge to determine if your shooting technique could result in you massively clearing the target if you accidentally released mid draw.
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Berniethebolt Moderator

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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:48 am Post subject: |
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LOL good one Dee we can Judge together lol
Hi Bushy this came about on a course over here one or two off the Targets is down hill .......... very down hill and if a archer was to draw standing straight as you would normal do at these targets would you are your club say this is a high draw. Over here we would have to say yes as if you where to let go by accient then Lord knows where it would land lol, on there targets you should draw with arrow pointing towards the target for saftey reason.
Would you have anything like this at your club and are there any other rules out there we should all know ???
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Bushy Moderator

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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Mjollnir wrote: | | Bushy wrote: | | it depends what you declare a high draw I T-draw which means when i anchor I am usually at the top of the target |
Ultimately it is down to the judges descrection. The rule is their to stop an arrow massively overshooting a target if accidentally released mid draw. Therefore, general rule of thumb is if the bow hand is higher than the shoulder, but this doesn't work for all cases, so a little common sense is called for. For example, if you are pulling a light poundage, you may need to aim high to reach your target. You may have a draw technique where both your bow arm and draw arm start high at the same level, an drop at the same rate as you draw, thus the arrow never points skyward. Equally if you are shooting down hill a shoulder level bow arm is too high and therefore dangerous. So as I said it is ultimately up to the Judge to determine if your shooting technique could result in you massively clearing the target if you accidentally released mid draw. |
Ahhh now the mist clear. Thing is with field is that the targets are usually shot off the floor so it makes it easier to overshoot the target anyway
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Mjollnir Grand Master Bowman

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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Bushy wrote: | | Ahhh now the mist clear. Thing is with field is that the targets are usually shot off the floor so it makes it easier to overshoot the target anyway |
Ahh butt (pun intended ) if you are already shooting down (as I assume you are taller than the butt) even if you do clear the target you aren't going to go far beyond it. However, if you release high, you COULD quite easily send an arrow a couple of hundred meters, way past the target, and possibly into an area where other people are. Ok I am talking extremes, but that is what the rule is there to prevent.  
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sunmouse Junior Poster

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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Our club has an good rule and that's no arrows to be left in the undergrowth! If people miss the bosses, then EVERY arrow has to be found. None can be left in the field.
This is because the club's shooting field also doubles as children's football pitch and no-one wants children being injured from tripping over arrows stuck in the ground.
Our own rule between the two of us when out shooting not far from home in forestry is to take every arrow home. Nothing should be left in the forestry. This is because animals often graze in the area, cyclists use the roads regularly and there are occasionally dog walkers, club walkers and the odd jogger. There has also been, this weekend, a motor rally done by a local club and this has made getting into the forestry quite difficult as well as being very noisy, especially when you're trying to shoot and some idiot has a backfire (because of over revving and using additives in the petrol).
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