woozle Junior Poster

Posts: 65 No Commercial Interest Location: hampshire
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: Mongolian Bow? |
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Im not sayin i would , im not sayin i could, but they looook so nice. If i move to a classic style of bow.Any good, anything better. I just think the lines are just to good to be true. Are the stories of pulling down like a compound true. Can i use this for field target and pulling 36lb(?) how far, what arrows?. There very simple, now get to work , regards woozle.
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English Bowman Cub Poster
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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They are not like a compound as we know them, but the siyahs on some of them give a similar effect but it's not so much a let off as it reaching a point and then not getting heavier so quickly. I've noticed this on some of them and not others so you'd have to try the bow to see if it worked for you.
As to your other questions they are almost imposable to answer. You'd need wooden arrows with feather fletchings if you were shooting traditionally but some people use alloys or even carbons from them.
What range you'd get depends on the individual bow, your draw length, the length of your face, your style of shooting, the string you're using, the arrows you're using and what level of accuracy you are expecting. It's not a simple question to answer. A lady I know using a 35lb sythian bow with 1/4 wooden arrows struggles to reach 80yds and can't hit a target much above 50, yet a gent using the same bow, with 5/16 arrows who draws it further will reach 180yds and put most of them on at 80 with no real problems.
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zetabow Apprentice Bowman
Posts: 153 Commercial Coach Location: Tallinn, Estonia
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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A lot of these Bows on the market are not great performers, if you want a performer check out Saluki Bows in the USA, very high performance, I hear some on the web claiming plus 240fps with carbons but haven't had a chance to test mine yet, my Saluki Ibex with Carbons and 3 fingers under my point on is 65 yards which indicates some decent speed, it's hard to tell from behind the string but bystanders tell me arrows are smoking out of it.
Saluki's are pretty accurate too as I given a few good Barebow archers a run for their money, in truth it's accuracy is no match for a Fita rig but they do put a BIG smile on your face when you shoot them, which is what Archery is all about.
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woozle Junior Poster

Posts: 65 No Commercial Interest Location: hampshire
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, i must try one to buy one.
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sunmouse Junior Poster

Posts: 81 No Commercial Interest Location: Rhondda, S Wales
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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One of our archery friends who does medieval re-enactment has a son who shoots a mongolian with old style feather arrows. Its not a Grozer or anything as expensive as that, just a Mongolian bow he probably picked up at a medieval fayre and thought 'I like this'. He doesn't shoot it that often but its not a forgiving bow to shoot and if you're looking for gold and target medals, go elsewhere, but if you want something which looks and probably shoots quite nicely, its worth a try. That said, you need to be quite strong to pull one of these efforts. Our friend is quite strong, inspite of his other difficulties and draws about 44 lbs (I think). The bow suits him because its not fussy and he is short and it just looks the part!
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Club: Blandy Jenkins Bow: Win and Win Pro Accent & Samick Agulla Sight: Shooter and Arten Olympic and Shibuya dual click Arrows: Easton 1813 Plat plus and Easton 1616 blues Accesories: KAP limbs
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pHz Cub Poster

Posts: 46 Club Committee Member Location: flatness (UK)
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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i have a cheapish (toth) mongolian and agree that they can be a tad unforgiving of a bad release
but i think theyre relatively easy to pull compared to a modern recurve - my recurve rig is 39lb on the fingers and my mongo is 45 but i can shoot my mongo longer and easier - as mentioned the siyahs give less of a compound style letoff and more of a flattening of the draw force curve (or so it feels - never plotted it properly)
one other thing - if you get one take advice from someone with experience with them as to arrows - generally you will need lighter spines than you think - for my 45lb mongo is use 35-40lb shafts and they fly reasonably well
slainte rob
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woozle Junior Poster

Posts: 65 No Commercial Interest Location: hampshire
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:10 am Post subject: |
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My thanks for info, im still not certain about this but just feel i need to try.
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Club: talisman bowmen Bow: win & win Sight: bifocal Arrows: pointy Accesories:
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sunmouse Junior Poster

Posts: 81 No Commercial Interest Location: Rhondda, S Wales
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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You will almost certainly find the mongolian is completely different from shooting modern recurve bows, even from longbow. Don't expect to apply the same technique that you would apply to shooting modern recurves.
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Club: Blandy Jenkins Bow: Win and Win Pro Accent & Samick Agulla Sight: Shooter and Arten Olympic and Shibuya dual click Arrows: Easton 1813 Plat plus and Easton 1616 blues Accesories: KAP limbs
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