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Selwoc
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Berniethebolt wrote:


Hi Selwoc I take it its the same stuff they use to make the "flies"???

Bernie, I'm no fisherman, but I would guess so.

I've just run a search on fishing feathers, a few finds below.

Fishing shop
http://www.twenga.co.uk/dir-Sports,Fishing,Fishing-feather

also the ones sold by archery stores
http://www.merlinarcherycentre.co...talog/Gateway_Feather_Tracer.html
http://www.quicksarchery.co.uk/superbasket/product.php?product=1009




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right these are different to the ones I saw many many years ago  

Blackheart I think they were made of rabbit fur would that seem right from the ones you remember    


Anyway I think I will get some and give it a try so yes please Mark (corbarwolf) we would like a 'how to'  



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A HOW TO guide to applying feather tracers.

Did this at dinner time at work out of the back of my car. Not the best conditions for applying tracers as it was a little windy, but it was better to photograph in daylight, but i think i have covered all the necessaries.
Give it a try and let me know how you get on.
Good luck, Mark.

Caution:- Do not breathe these vapors in, you will feel off for a few days with a very stuffy head and running nose like a tap, it's not worth it, this is rough stuff much like most adhesives.  If you can do it outside do so.

1ST Image shows the tools needed..........Tracers, of course, Loctite Super Glue with Brush, Knife with dull end, Pliers small with sharp cutting capability.

2ND Image shows the curly widest end of the feather which is an annoyance so cut it back.

3RD Image shows the application of a dab of glue to the nearest position you can go to next to your fletchings.

4TH Image shows the use of the dull knife to hold the cut end of the tracer into the dab of glue whilst holding the rest of the tracer and arrow shaft in the palm and finger tips of your other hand.

5TH Image shows the tracer solidly anchored to the shaft and the rest free floating.

6TH Image shows the pliers holding the tail end of the tracer and it is at this point you brush the glue around the arrow shaft nock side of the dab of glue already applied. (Needed to hold camera here or grow 3rd hand)

7TH Image shows the tracer being wound on to about half way at this point. The arrow needs to be securely held but with sufficient resistance to stop the arrow spinning freely to allow this stage to be done with ease. I use the target ball which i find invaluable at this point and just turn the nock with my other hand. Or you can sit down and put the pile inside your slipper/shoe instep and grip the shaft with your knees.......you'll find your own method that feels right for you.
This is the crucial stage as it is here you can end up with a blob of feather and glue. So i tend to blow softly over the top of the nock down the shaft as this whilst turning with the hand and holding the pliers with the other moves the feathers down and away from any glue

8TH Image shows the end of the wrapping, hold it here as the glue must set. Once done let go of the pliers and dab a little more glue at the tail end and use the knife to push it into the glue and hold again.

9TH Image shows the finished article with a little preening.

10TH Image shows the target ball i was talking about earlier to hold the arrows.

11TH image shows the wind speed and direction on the tracers





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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Mark, I shall be giving it a whirl


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be careful.
Worst case scenario you stick your hands together and we never hear from you again...




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

corbarwolf wrote:
Be careful.
Worst case scenario you stick your hands together and we never hear from you again...


         

Don't tell the Ratfighter then        




You make that look so easy Mark thank you  

Is it OK for us all to send you our arrows to do  







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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawn wrote:
corbarwolf wrote:
Be careful.
Worst case scenario you stick your hands together and we never hear from you again...


         

Don't tell the Ratfighter then        




You make that look so easy Mark thank you  

Is it OK for us all to send you our arrows to do  



Was just thinking that Dawn      How about it Mark       Can't afford to get hands stuck together how else would I get Sean's money out of his wallet    

Thanks Mark the photos are very clear on what to do when I get my Feather Tracers I'll be sitting with the laptop beside me  

Bernie


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to be of service Ladies, i would happily do them for you, Dawn if we meet at a local shoot tap me on my shoulder and thrust tracers in my hand all i ask is a cup of tea in return.
Bernie geographically we have a problem i think..but i believe in you anyway....go for it

Mark




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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark you are a gentleman  

Hope to see you soon, I haven't been out to opens this year, only shot round our wood  

Hopefully I will be out and about a bit now  



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Arrow tracers Reply with quote

Hi Mark

It would be great to see a 'how 2' on these tracers........ can you do it in big print or in my case brail

John


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Arrow tracers Reply with quote

Road Runner wrote:
Hi Mark

It would be great to see a 'how 2' on these tracers........ can you do it in big print or in my case brail

John



Scroll up a bit John  

Mark has done it  



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Arrow tracers Reply with quote

Dawn wrote:
Road Runner wrote:
Hi Mark

It would be great to see a 'how 2' on these tracers........ can you do it in big print or in my case brail

John



Scroll up a bit John  

Mark has done it  



Oh Yes.... so he has........ didn't see that................. see my point ?....... blind as a bat!

Hmmm should this bloke be let loose with pointy arrows ?

John


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

           

Glad I'm in N Ireland John

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:06 pm    Post subject: Tracers Reply with quote

Well I have to agree with Mark... I luv these tracers !!!!.... just one point BE SPARING with the glue on one arrow I was a little over generouse cos it wouldnt stick and the vains of the tracer soaked up the glue like a straw.  
The upshot was I had extra pointy bits on the arrow shaft and it went anywhere but where I wanted it to. However, I did manage to strip it off and start again.  I use carbon arrows so I think I may have to use a gel super glue unless anyone knows of a good alternative?.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:11 pm    Post subject: Tracers Reply with quote

Just a thought on these things getting wet..... as a fly fisherman I use Mucillin silicone to dress the dry flies...just rub a little on the fingers and preen the feathers... not to much or they will stick together and defeat the object.
I am trying some with silicon and some without and cant see any difference other than the ones with silicon do seem to stay fluffy longer.


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