Berniethebolt
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Rules of ArcheryHi everyone,
I have just started on the path of being a judge for our club and of course I will probley learn about rules I didn't know exsist  so I thought I would put this in I may help me and I thought it would be good for any new people coming into Archery.
I would like for everyone to but a rule down I will start
"NO HIGH DRAWS" which means you are not allowed to draw your bow back pointing high over the target.
One rule on one post and if any one has any questions about the rules that have pop up ask them maybe we can get a bit of discussion going about the rule and why its there.
It may make my learning a bit more fun and newbies might learn things too in a intresting way.
May I also add this is not a replacement for learning the rules out of the rule book
Hope you all enjoy this
Bernie
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Eaglearcher
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Which Rule Book?
Maybe we should state EFAA, NFAS OR GNAS. It will be interesting to see the differences between the associations.
The EFAA rule on high draws states that the bow arm must not go above shoulder height.
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AFB
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I think NFAS is the same about High Draws as Efaa
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Berniethebolt
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| Eaglearcher wrote: | Which Rule Book?
Maybe we should state EFAA, NFAS OR GNAS. It will be interesting to see the differences between the associations.
The EFAA rule on high draws states that the bow arm must not go above shoulder height. |
Thats a good idea Eagle to state which organiztion EFAA, NFAS, or GNAS and also form other countrys USA etc it would be intresting to see if they have any rule we don't have here
That EFAA rule how does that stand if someone is shooting a target down hill if that archer still draws the bow while standing stright even thou the bow arm is not above the shoulder and then brings the bow down towards the target is that by the EFAA considered a high draw???
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Eaglearcher
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Good point Bernie.
I have been at shoots where we have been told to draw up on the target on downhill shots. Maybe an addendum to the rule is in order. Unless its already there of course......i will have to go and have a look.
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Celtic Dragon
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The 1 thats got me is the arrow markings rule?
What constitutes an unmarked arrow? Would manufactures markings and fletching / nock combination suffice?
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sid
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| Celtic Dragon wrote: | The 1 thats got me is the arrow markings rule?
What constitutes an unmarked arrow? Would manufactures markings and fletching / nock combination suffice? |
this is probably the simplest rule to understand from an NFAS point of view
# Arrows.
* Every arrow shot must be clearly marked with the contestant's name, initials or insignia.
* All arrows must be clearly marked so as to indicate the order in which they were shot. If an error occurs, the group must be informed before the next arrow is shot for the incorrectly shot arrow to score.
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Berniethebolt
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That one is the same in GNAS sid
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Mjollnir
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Well GNAS only cares about order in certain tournament types.
Also the rules state that every arrow in your set must have the same colours for fletchings/nocks, in the same pattern.
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Berniethebolt
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| Mjollnir wrote: | Well GNAS only cares about order in certain tournament types.
Also the rules state that every arrow in your set must have the same colours for fletchings/nocks, in the same pattern. |
Maybe in the Target Tournaments MJ but I don't think so much in field altou maybe some else can tell me otherwise and you are right about fletchings and nocks
Bernie
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Celtic Dragon
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| sid wrote: | | Celtic Dragon wrote: | The 1 thats got me is the arrow markings rule?
What constitutes an unmarked arrow? Would manufactures markings and fletching / nock combination suffice? |
this is probably the simplest rule to understand from an NFAS point of view
# Arrows.
* Every arrow shot must be clearly marked with the contestant's name, initials or insignia.
* All arrows must be clearly marked so as to indicate the order in which they were shot. If an error occurs, the group must be informed before the next arrow is shot for the incorrectly shot arrow to score.
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Want to bet? What does NFAS class as insignia, to me that would mean my fletching / nock combination, served me well for target.
As for the shooting order, are shafts supposed to be numbered 1 - 12 and shot in numerical order? I just pull an arrow out of the quiver, and shoot. An arrow is an arrow and as long as teh required number of arrows are in the target, wheres the problem?
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Eaglearcher
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C.D.
Insignia could mean anything. Your nock/fletching combo is probably enough but in NFAS a lot of arrows get lost and if your name is on it, the chances are that your lost arrows will find their way back to you much easier.
As far as the numbering is concerned. What is being referred to there is the numbering of your first, second and third arrows.
The majority of NFAS shoots are shot so that you score maximum points with the first arrow and if you miss you get two more goes. Three chances in all. With each arrow shot the score decreases. Sometimes, especially when shooting paper targets on bosses, it isnt clear if you have hit the target or not and you will take a second or third arrow just to be sure. If your arrows are numbered, and shot in order, there is no arguement as to which arrow should be scored.
This is usually done by putting 1,2 or 3 rings around the shaft of the arrow just below the fletching. Although there are other ways.
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Mjollnir
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| Celtic Dragon wrote: | | As for the shooting order, are shafts supposed to be numbered 1 - 12 and shot in numerical order? I just pull an arrow out of the quiver, and shoot. An arrow is an arrow and as long as teh required number of arrows are in the target, wheres the problem? |
And in GNAS there are certain Tournaments, I think they are all indoor ones, that shoot at Vegas syle faces. where you have to shoot one or two arrows in each of the faces. Arrow 1 in target 1, Arrow two in target two etc. If you hit a gold cross with arrow one in target two no score is given, as this is considered a miss of target one.
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Celtic Dragon
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GNAS rounds were (IIRC) 60cm faces, as slong as the correct number of arrows were shot it didn't matter.
Atleast when I did it that as the case, mind you it has been 15 years since I shot a GNAS round.
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sid
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| Celtic Dragon wrote: | | sid wrote: | | Celtic Dragon wrote: | The 1 thats got me is the arrow markings rule?
What constitutes an unmarked arrow? Would manufactures markings and fletching / nock combination suffice? |
this is probably the simplest rule to understand from an NFAS point of view
# Arrows.
* Every arrow shot must be clearly marked with the contestant's name, initials or insignia.
* All arrows must be clearly marked so as to indicate the order in which they were shot. If an error occurs, the group must be informed before the next arrow is shot for the incorrectly shot arrow to score.
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Want to bet? What does NFAS class as insignia, to me that would mean my fletching / nock combination, served me well for target.
As for the shooting order, are shafts supposed to be numbered 1 - 12 and shot in numerical order? I just pull an arrow out of the quiver, and shoot. An arrow is an arrow and as long as teh required number of arrows are in the target, wheres the problem? |
I take it you have not ever shot field/3D NFAS?, basically it is the first arrow that scores counts but you move forward a peg each time you miss. There is a bit more to it than that but you need to know which arrow was shot from each peg, simple really.
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Mjollnir
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| Celtic Dragon wrote: | GNAS rounds were (IIRC) 60cm faces, as slong as the correct number of arrows were shot it didn't matter.
Atleast when I did it that as the case, mind you it has been 15 years since I shot a GNAS round. |
Yes for the tournament rounds shot at a single face, it doesn't matter, well except you have to use the same arrows each end, and inform the judge if you have to change one for any reason.
However, as I said a lot of the Multispot face tournaments require you to hit the correct spot with the correct arrow.
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Celtic Dragon
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Opps found what I'm looking for.
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Barracuda Babe
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Good topic Bernie - as I've been pulled into the Judging trap too (although I will insist on judging indoors only - love outside too much to waste time being a judge on those ones).
The high draw one is a cracker - and deadly if you consider target 24 at our Castlewellan Shoot. If someone does a high draw there - the groups who've just sat down for lunch will get a nasty surprise if some idiot insists on high draws at downhill targets .....
Would be nice if it were certain archers though  Wonder if it could be arranged ... tee heee hee.
Barracuda
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Bushy
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it depends what you declare a high draw I T-draw which means when i anchor I am usually at the top of the target
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Mjollnir
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| Bushy wrote: | | it depends what you declare a high draw I T-draw which means when i anchor I am usually at the top of the target |
Ultimately it is down to the judges descrection. The rule is their to stop an arrow massively overshooting a target if accidentally released mid draw. Therefore, general rule of thumb is if the bow hand is higher than the shoulder, but this doesn't work for all cases, so a little common sense is called for. For example, if you are pulling a light poundage, you may need to aim high to reach your target. You may have a draw technique where both your bow arm and draw arm start high at the same level, an drop at the same rate as you draw, thus the arrow never points skyward. Equally if you are shooting down hill a shoulder level bow arm is too high and therefore dangerous. So as I said it is ultimately up to the Judge to determine if your shooting technique could result in you massively clearing the target if you accidentally released mid draw.
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Berniethebolt
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LOL good one Dee we can Judge together lol
Hi Bushy this came about on a course over here one or two off the Targets is down hill .......... very down hill and if a archer was to draw standing straight as you would normal do at these targets would you are your club say this is a high draw. Over here we would have to say yes as if you where to let go by accient then Lord knows where it would land lol, on there targets you should draw with arrow pointing towards the target for saftey reason.
Would you have anything like this at your club and are there any other rules out there we should all know ???
Bernie
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Bushy
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| Mjollnir wrote: | | Bushy wrote: | | it depends what you declare a high draw I T-draw which means when i anchor I am usually at the top of the target |
Ultimately it is down to the judges descrection. The rule is their to stop an arrow massively overshooting a target if accidentally released mid draw. Therefore, general rule of thumb is if the bow hand is higher than the shoulder, but this doesn't work for all cases, so a little common sense is called for. For example, if you are pulling a light poundage, you may need to aim high to reach your target. You may have a draw technique where both your bow arm and draw arm start high at the same level, an drop at the same rate as you draw, thus the arrow never points skyward. Equally if you are shooting down hill a shoulder level bow arm is too high and therefore dangerous. So as I said it is ultimately up to the Judge to determine if your shooting technique could result in you massively clearing the target if you accidentally released mid draw. |
Ahhh now the mist clear. Thing is with field is that the targets are usually shot off the floor so it makes it easier to overshoot the target anyway
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Mjollnir
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| Bushy wrote: | | Ahhh now the mist clear. Thing is with field is that the targets are usually shot off the floor so it makes it easier to overshoot the target anyway |
Ahh butt (pun intended  ) if you are already shooting down (as I assume you are taller than the butt) even if you do clear the target you aren't going to go far beyond it. However, if you release high, you COULD quite easily send an arrow a couple of hundred meters, way past the target, and possibly into an area where other people are. Ok I am talking extremes, but that is what the rule is there to prevent.
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sunmouse
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Our club has an good rule and that's no arrows to be left in the undergrowth! If people miss the bosses, then EVERY arrow has to be found. None can be left in the field.
This is because the club's shooting field also doubles as children's football pitch and no-one wants children being injured from tripping over arrows stuck in the ground.
Our own rule between the two of us when out shooting not far from home in forestry is to take every arrow home. Nothing should be left in the forestry. This is because animals often graze in the area, cyclists use the roads regularly and there are occasionally dog walkers, club walkers and the odd jogger. There has also been, this weekend, a motor rally done by a local club and this has made getting into the forestry quite difficult as well as being very noisy, especially when you're trying to shoot and some idiot has a backfire (because of over revving and using additives in the petrol).
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