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| Gemms |
ButtonOk so I was walking around this archery shop just looking around and all of a sudden a bow lept off the shelf into my bag, while at the same time knocking my credit card out of my wallet and into the checkout machine.An unfortunate accident but one I can live with 
When I got home and was reading the many leaflets etc that came with the kit I saw mention of buttons. So my question is, what is a button, do I need one and if I do how do I use it? |
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| Onewackybow |
Well, currently I use them to hold various pieces of cloth together, forming garments that I place around my body.
The button is attached to one piece of cloth using a thread (Note: not a forum thread.) the button is then pushed through a small hole or slit in another piece of cloth. Simple but effective. 
Alternatively: A 'Kisser Button' is a small plastic disc, (approx. 10mm diameter), attached to the bowstring. It is positioned on the bowstring, so that at full draw, it will touch the the archer's lips. It can be located to touch the nose instead, if the archer chooses to use this position. The purpose of the Kisser Button is to provide another point of reference for the anchor position. Mainly it is used on recurve bows. 
PS. I was recently mugged by a new bow, held me down and spanked my credit card very hard. 
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| Dawn |
 Good one Gemms
Ok pressure button its what your arrow rests on instead of resting on the bow, some also incorporate an arrow rest. some exampes here http://www.quicks.com/pdf/pdf28to46.pdf pages 30 - 32 You haven't said what sort of bow fell into your bag  compound, recurve, traditional longbow or AFB some bows you wouldn't want to put a button on  others perform better with one, some bows can be shot either with or without 
Hope I haven't confused you even more 
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| Onewackybow |
I had assumed a plunger button had been supplied as the bow is Hoyt Nexus according to the signature.
Thats quite an expensive riser... did you just buy it or did you get advice from a club or the shop itself
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| Mjollnir |
Or back on this planet
The "button" or "Pressure button" screws through the riser just above the arrow rest, it is like a plunger and helps your arrows fly where you want them to (in simple terms). whether you want one or not, the answer is yes, a cheep £10 one will do for now. The presure button strentgh should be adjusted to about the pressure of a ball point pen plunger as a first setting. I hope this helps. 
D'oh, took so long replying other sensible posts got in lol |
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| Chedawan |
Alternatively (for a second time), I give you the pressure button.
The pressure button on a recurve bow, along with the arrow rest hold the arrow in the correct position on the bow. Adjusting these two items together and/or independently is integral in tuning the bow. The button is is essentially made up of a tip that touches the arrow, and a spring held in a barrel that screws into the riser of a recurve bow. The pressure of the spring can be altered, to make the give in the tip either firmer or softer. You can get buttons ranging from around three pounds (in money not weight), up to about seventy pounds, and they all do exactly the same thing (attempt to correct archers paradox more or less - the pressure applied in the wrong direction on the string as it slides around your fingers on release), personally I use a cheaper button and am happy when I need to tune my bow to use allen keys, however some of the more expensive ones are completely tool-less. Hope that helps in some way (this is where someone now tells me I've gotten it all wrong), I think somewhere I have a link to a pdf file that explains all of this in much more detail, in more user-friendly language, which I'll try and dig out for you if you'd like? Adam |
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| Gemms |
Aha! I see. At the moment my bow just has a basic arrow rest on it (the same as the ones I have been using at the club so its familiar)
I have a recurve bow, Hoyt nexus riser with KAP Winstorm limbs (went with the basic limbs so I can upgrade later) So is it worth spending a few quid more on another rest and button or just use what I have while I work on my form? |
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| Chedawan |
Ach sorry to repeat you guys, must've posted whilst I was still pecking away at the keys (Damn my choosing a beak over opposable thumbs!) | ||||
| Mjollnir |
The rest you have will be fine, but a cheep button, might be a worth while investment
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| Gemms |
Can keep up with the speed of the replies
Thanks for all the advice guys ( and gals)! |
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| Onewackybow |
I'm using a mid priced rest/button - Cavalier Free Flyte (£20ish) and a Shibuya DX Gold plunger (£18ish) on my Merlin Elite riser.
Was that sensible enough Mr Mjollnir?
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| Mjollnir |
Well at least you avoided talking about Monkeys 
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| Chedawan |
I use a cartel triple cushion pressure button which cost me the princely sum of four quid. It does the same job as the more expensive ones, and (in my humble opinion) has less on it that can go wrong. As said before they all do the same thing so it's up to your choice, the only slight addition I would say to that is that if you're in a club, people are more likely to be able to help you set up a simple button (as they probably haven't come across every brand of the all singing, all dancing versions) whether this is a good or bad thing is dependent upon the club members who may wish to help. My advice would be to read up on what it does, and once it's set up not let other people fiddle with it.
There's a good bit about it in Simon Needham's 'Archery the art of repetition' it's a target focussed book, but there's stuff in there that can be applied to all forms of archery and you'll probably find it's available at the local library. |
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| Onewackybow |
Believe me it was not easy.
I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... I must not mention monkeys... |
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| Dawn |
Don't know how you got on Gemms but I feel confused now
Anyway I shoot a recurve bow with a metal handle I use a Spigarelli flip rest Compact profile, base sits below the arrow £3.95 (a) and QA51 Cartel button £7.50 (a) Good value. Styled on the Shibuya DX. Excellent first button. 5/16” (as shown on Quicks pages 30 - 32) I have found both to be very reliable and good value As already said you don't have to use a pressure button but you may find it helps to get your arrows to fly straight but you may need someone to help you set it up the first time 
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| Onewackybow |
advise, inform, educate and confuse - the three cornerstones of any forum...
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| Gemms |
I'm trying now to decide if that was deliberate. Or did the Monkey run off with the fourth cornerstone? |
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| Mjollnir |
Nah, I think it was all part of the fourth corner stone
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| Onewackybow |
Based loosly upon:
NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition! Our chief weapon is surprise...surprise and fear...fear and surprise.... Our two weapons are fear and surprise...and ruthless efficiency.... Our *three* weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope.... Our *four*...no... *Amongst* our weapons.... Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise.... I'll come in again. |
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| Mjollnir |
ahh good old Monty pithon
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