AR Shoot

Liam · AR Shoot

An idea Ive had knocking around my head for a while now, and The Ratfighter has come up with a way of making it easier to acomplish.

Ideally I'd love to have 3 or 4 regional field shoots taking place at the same time, or perhaps a couple of shoots per year in different places around the country, but right now we dont have the grounds or the membership to make it worthwhile so maybe next year for that one

The suggestion is that we could all shoot a short metric target round at the same time but at our own venues, somehow we could be in contact with each other at regular intervals. We would use a target round rather than having a field shoot as field shoots at different venues would not provide a level playing field for all.
Overseas members would of course be welcome to arrange a shoot so they can participate, but maybe not at the exact same time

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Anyway thats the basic idea for now, obviously more details are needed and will be given as and when but for now if you could just express an interest or pass any comment please do so.

Dawn

Ok I suppose I can force myself to shoot round targets just for AR

Just hope they are not on target stands

Liam

I understand your reservations Dawn, but for now its not really a viable option to hold an AR field shoot. As soon as we can we WILL

Dawn

yep suppose your right

it should be good fun anyway

Liam

You got a 50 yarder at your place Dawn ? or will you be trecking down to Merlin

(presuming we do 50)

Dawn

Not sure if can can do a 50 safely but will check it out when your ready

Remember I shoot instinctive so what does 50 yards look like

Liam

Ive got a big tape measure

Gumbob

JimN

I'm supposedly still a member of the Derbyshire Archery Club (and GNAS, but I've never had anything (not even a membership card) from them). Would be good if the 'local' members could get together, possibly at Merlin?

Ruthy

I'm up for a short metric round at merlin..

Just think of the fun we could all have

For those who can't make merlin but have the facility to shoot it elsewhere they can call/text their scores in by mobile (with pics too

if they have camera phones!) we could end up with the biggest shoot over distance...

By the way Liam it's 50 metres and 30 metres not yards! in yards it would be 55yds and 33yds (with an 80cm target face for both distances and 3 doz arrows at each distance starting with 50 mts)

Oh i can't wait what fun it will be..

Ratfighter

Wow, what have we started!!!
Firstly, credit should go to Tony Weston for suggesting the Telephone round. We were arranging to go to his place and have a shoot and rather than have to make us tea and cheese on toast, he suggested we stay as far away as possible and text the scores

From the AR perspective, it ticks all the boxes, this way all contributors from around the world can take part and this embodies the spirit and friendliness of our forum.

It would be great to have a live shoot off, at various points around the country and a closing date for E-petitors (did you see what I did there <--- pure genius)

We should photograph each end and post them for scrutiny on the board, During the live event we'll need to devise a system of contact that doesn't involve phones going off mid shot.
I suggest, as we are all primarily field shooters, that we adopt the NFAS style divisions.
As stated earlier it would be 3 dozen at 50m (55 yards) and then 3 dozen at 30m (33 yards). Obviously being a technofreak I have a range finder but, being a friendly competition, I don't suppose we are to a yard or two.
The scoring goes X,10, 9 (the gold rings) 87 (red) 65 (blue) and there are some other rings to shoot at on the outside. the face is a FITA 80cm, readily available for a few pence from any archery shop around the world

So I guess we need to sort out a date and as always some prizes, maybe a shiny avatar for the placings, (not that I have a clue how to do that)

I really like the sound of this and can't wait to have a go, we'll report back on the success of the trial run on Tuesday.

Gumbob

Sounds like a lot of fun

Would it have to be at a club or could we do it anywhere we had permission (and its safe of course) to set up a target? I have one of those through down thingies big enough to take an 80cm (I think

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Looking forward to see how this goes.....Gumbob

Liam

Looking good then, me thinks this is going to happen

And yes I know its meters una-vita, just using yards for Dawn benifit

these old uns dont understand metric

Ruthy

Liam

Dawn

segolden

Sounds bloody unpatriotic to me, using a French system of measurement.

Steve B

hmmmmmm, me thinks getting this organised this end is going to be difficult. My club is purely a field culb and we have no target bosses big enough to take an 80 cm FITA face. Have to see what I can arrange.....

but hey it sound wonderful fun

Ratfighter

But Steve,
you are shooting a Merlin and will only require the gold and at a push, a bit of the red, wouldn't be more than 20 cm

Liam

Ruthy

dtalbot

Sounds fun!
Dawn I think we have room for a 50m straight and flat(ish) target range somewhere in the woods but can't be sure without a tape measure!
If not Merlin aint that far away!
Cheers
David

Dawn

JimN

Where the croc was may be long enough and it's the flattest bit without holly/trees in the way.

Dawn

Think thats about the only place Jim

Liam

If its possible and feasable to hold a 'leg' at Black Arrow that would be great, infact could be easier for the 'Merlin usual suspects' to shoot at BA rather than you lot trecking down to Loughborough, dont worry too much about squeezing it in though Dawn if BA members are happy to travel to Merlin.

Will have a chat with Ben and Chris about the options available concerning using Merlins grounds and perhaps taking over the range for a couple of hours or so.

Would like to arrange this for Aug-Sept if possible, probably begining of september to avoid holidays etc, unless of course we can get it all in place before July

Bushy

WHAT ROUND TARGETS!!!!!!!! Oh i suppose it will be fun not far off my point of aim at 50 yds other problem that some field archers might find is shooting that amount of arrows only like to take 1 at each target really lol would be a good laugh though is it done taking 3 at a time like in a portsmouth?????

Liam

3 dozen arrows @ 50m (1/2 dozen at a time)
3 dozen arrows @ 30m (1/2 dozen at a time)

Total of 72 arrows max possible score = 720

Bushy

it would be good practice for the discipline side of shooting again can anyone go down to merlin and how much does it cost for the range if u dont mind me asking

Liam

Think its £3 for as long as you want, and yes anybody welcome

Bushy

Is it a very hard place to find I have never been to Merlin but might get down a few times before i go to the 3d's as I have not done hardly any practice whatsoever up to yet and i onyl got less that 4 weeks with a coursework and 2 exams to prepare for as well

Dawn

I would go to Merlin if thats what we decide, just think that if we can set it up at BA we could have a couple of days to make it easier for people to get

Trouble with beginning September is the NFAS Nationals are middle September and those who go there may feel its a bit too much

Something else in the pipeline is a 2 day Traditional archery competition being planned for Sept 8th & 9th at Locko Park near Derby.

This looks like including target, field, roving and clout. will be half a day at each, more on this as arrangements are made

Liam

Much to consider yet, we will get there though, maybe June - July is looking favourite at the mo.

Bushy - Merlin is on the A6 on the left as you leave Loughborough towards Leicester keep your eyes open though and if you get to the roundabout youve gone too far.

dtalbot

Liam

If its a slight uphill gradient it could substitute the fact there will be no target stand

Dawn

dtalbot

Bushy, it is dead easy find but as easy to miss the driveway entrance as a huge hedge hides the sign and its on a road where the traffic shifts quite fast! Spot the big hedge and slow down, the entry is at the end of it and its a 90 degree turn into it. Took me 2 tries to avoid overshooting when I first went

dtalbot

Dawn

dtalbot

Happy to help out with whatever BA get up to assuming its not one of my rugrat herding!

Liam

Segolden - you got space for a solo shoot, all you need is 50m or 30m your archery equipment and a camera, there's no reason you couldnt join in

Steve B - Is this a possibilty down under ?

segolden

Yeah, hadn't thought of that, duh! Gonna need a detailed read of the rules and scoring, though, never done this competition thing before.

Send me a PM when somebody can, and it should be no problem.

Liam

Basically mate its 3 dozen arrows at 50 meters and 3 dozen at 30 metres using a 80cm target face centre ring scores 10 moving out to scoring 1 for the outer ring, will get some proper rules put up closer to the time

segolden

Gonna have to do some practicing for that longer range, plus pick up some target faces, but I'm always up to humiliating myself.

Liam

There will be no humiliation Steve, its the taking part that counts... or thats what my dear departed Mum used to tell me anyway

Steve B

The only hastle I have with it, is it is damn Lawn tennis

and I am a field archer

But seriously the Boss size is an issue for us over here, we are a totall field club and have pressed wool bales filled with silage wrap as stop butts. I do however have an 80cm FITA face at my disposal already. SO leave it with me and I recon I can get a few extras in on it as well

Liam

Its not the best way for a predominantly field based forum, but is is a fair level playing field for us all, just wait untill we get some field events going, and we'll do our best to have one arranged for when you finaly make it over here

Steve B

Now that one I will look forward to especially so I can meet you all, that will be the best part.... shooting arrows comes second

Dawn

Liam

It does seem the perfect occasion to have a AR meet

dtalbot

Well we paced out a flattish, clearish 50m in the woods at blackarrow tonight so looking good. Maybe not up to GNAS's definition of clear sight lines but plenty good enough for us field types!!!!!

Dawn

Yep its all looking good to set up at BA, we will await instruction

Liam

If I may come and inspect the grounds

I'll bring my big tape measure with me, I'm sure it will be fine

Steve B

You just wanna practice Liam

Liam

SShhh

Dawn

dtalbot

With a bit of luck I'll remember my 50m tape on Saturday!

AFB

Now I used to shoot recurve with sights. I now shoot AFB 55 yrds? *gulp* Level playing field *howl* put me down for a blank lol

Should be fun if nothing else

Are you going to seperate it into instinctive and sights???

Liam

Will be split into classes probably in line with NFAS regs

Blackcat

How far is 50m in yards we have a 30m marker but not further in meters. pactice area goes up to 65y and we have 2 80y shots so could shoot on them if needed. Waiting with bated breath for the date, as this sounds like a great idea if you can pull it off.

Dawn

Blackcat according to a previous post on this thread (page 1) 50m is 55 yards

It looks like we would use an 80cm face.

You are right it is a great idea and no reason we can't do it with a bit of organisation between us

Liam

Could everyone who has a possible shooting ground please list where the ground is so we can start to look at which regions we can shoot in.

Then we can look at who can shoot where and start to get an idea of how many participants we will have, feel free to invite non members if you wish, we may be able to convert them

Steve B

Well my region is Australia...not sure if anyone from the board will attend apart from Ross and I as Robin is working hard on his apprenticeship

Liam

Doesnt matter how many Steve, you could even shoot on your own, I believe segolden may be having a one man shoot

Remember a photo of each end will be required though.

Steve B

I have no issue with that Liam, cause I recon if you cheat in archery you are only cheating yourself...... besides if I havent earned the points I don't takem

Liam

I'm with you Steve, and I'm not for 1 minute suggesting anyone would cheat, but just to ensure we are all playing fair a photo of each end may be necessary, it adds to the fun anyway, lets see how many tree shots we get submitted

Dawn

We are OK to use our club wood at Coxbench, near Derby, England

Any one who can get is welcome

Blackcat

Jimbow and I will be fine to shoot at the IFAC and anyone in our area who hasn't got the room is welcome to come along, they will have to sign a day pass but otherwise no problem. Photo's won't be a prob.

Liam

Once a list of venues is complete we can start looking at who is shooting where date permitting and get this thing moving

Steve B

Great, looking forward to holding up the bottom of the ladder

Liam

Can you please post if you have a definate venue for an AR shoot, just the grounds name and nearest major town will do for now.

To get us started I know we have Black Arrows grounds available, so here we go

1) Black Arrow - Derby

Dawn

Liam

Yes please people can we have some venues submitted by the end of the month please, then we can look at setting a date

fred

Can I come and play please

The trouble Maker Fred

Dawn

Of course you can Fred

You are welcome at ours, or there may be another one set up more convenient to you, I will talk to you about it on Suday

fred

Thank you
Fred

Blackcat

Inverness Field Archery Club - Inverness.

Liam

We could carry on for ever with this waiting for more venues, Its a shame we havn't got more than 2, maybe next year hey

We now need to look at setting a date for this, idealy both will be on the same day, August and September are not the best times for this to happen due to holidays and National tournaments so that takes us into October, handily enough October see's AR's 1st birthday, what better way to celebrate then having our first 'live' tournament

So we have

Black Arrow FAC (Derby)

Inverness Field Archery Club (Inverness)

as venues and I propose either Sun 28th Oct or Sun 4th Nov as the date/s

This was originaly set up as a target shoot, but seeing as its going to be a birthday bash if possible we could have a bit of a target shoot and then maybe a small course (or part of course) for a quick field shoot as well? Is this possible Dawn / Blackcat ?

Lets get the dates confirmed first and then we can work on numbers and finer details

P.S. If any other venues can be sourced that can accomodate the dates above please let me know ASAP

Dawn

Thats fine by me boss

Either date seems OK and it may have stopped raining by then

Which date suits you Blackcat

So lets bring on the AR Birthday Bash

Come on everyone who's for joining in

Liam

Just to keep all informed I have approached a couple more venues and awaiting responses, if this comes off we may have 4 venues nicely spread, fingers X'd

Blackcat

We can only do the 28th

. We are hosting a fun shoot on the 4th.

Liam

Great

but before we make any plans is there anyone else in Scotland who cam make it to Inverness ? If you can please join and make it possible

Liam

Right, quick update, it looks as though we will only be holding the one event nr Derby and it will most probably be on the 4th of Nov so pls keep that day clear, we will try and get everything wrapped up and everyone away by mid afternoon as I'm sure people will have plans involving fireworks that night, we have plans for a quick target shoot and then a go round Black Arrows course, a unique scoring system will be used just to create a friendly bit of competition, and we will probably have some sort of bring along buffet for lunch, more details to follow

Dawn

Sounds great Liam

So who wants to put their name down to join in

JimN

Me, me, me, me

Dawn

Thats great Jim 4 places