Trad tech compounds oh my!!

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kirk
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:27 am Post subject: Trad tech compounds oh my!!

Ok i have to have one of these compounds. Jaselpool Left this link on Longbow/ AFB /horsebow http://www.falco.ee/ . Check out page 11 on the gallery for a clearer pic. Question dose anyone know who made these works of art, Segolden you seen anything like it out there in your neck of the woods. _________________ JUST SHOOT IT Owlethall Bowmen Secretary

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:40 am Post subject:

Mick, all I can find out is that Pape's ( a rather large american wholesaler of archery gear) is the distributor of them, I have asked around the industry here but they all seem to deal with Jake's (whats with the first name thing ) maybe as you suggest Steve can help from his side of the pond But damn Mick if my retailer had of been able to get one I would have had the damn think ordered... they a simply stunning bows

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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:

Wow, had no idea anybody was still making something like these, but people are really getting into wood/hybrid lams and the trad look. I've put some inquiries into several sources here, hopefully will get some info back, but the holiday is screwing everything up, so I'm not going to hold my breath yet. Have you contacted that Estonia company, Kirk? _________________ "For I have drawn Judah taut and applied [My hand] to Ephraim as to a bow." Zech. 9:13 http://www.freenations.freeuk.com/ http://www.melaniephillips.com/

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kirk
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:46 pm Post subject:

Hey Steve B & Steve, Are they sweet lookin bows or what, I sent a mail to Falco but no reply as yet, as you say steve the holidays slows everything down. I think one of these with exotic woods, and a Monster in flat black with fancy lams and antler nocks on the outboard limbs and i would be a happy man. For a while anyhow _________________ JUST SHOOT IT Owlethall Bowmen Secretary

segolden
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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject:

They are kinda sexy, ain't they? What answers I got back this morning say those bows seem to be export models, so Falco may be your best bet for info, as they're not being marketed here as yet. Great, now I've gotta learn Slavic... _________________ "For I have drawn Judah taut and applied [My hand] to Ephraim as to a bow." Zech. 9:13 http://www.freenations.freeuk.com/ http://www.melaniephillips.com/

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Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject:

Very nice looking bows.... I still have a wood-limbed compound (sort of...), and still think it was one of the nicest bows to shoot - mine wasn't fast though.... There is a company in the US who seem to be able to make wood limbs for compounds, but I have not seen a wooden-risered compound in a long while... Sort of looks like the type of bow that border would make if they made compounds. There's a thought....

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kirk
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:13 am Post subject:

Blackheart, you may have something there, i could see these being popular amongst the trad archers looking for a bow to ease those aching joints, me being one of them. My shoulder pays every time i go and shoot my trad bows. I have a Conquest 3 but it just doesn't do it for me. to high tech, to clinical and cold, i love the feel and look of wood. I know Fedora bows used to make them and they are one of the most respected trad bowyers in America. Martin archery made the warthog and American archery made the Puma (i think that was it's name) I can see that hardened darksiders wouldn't give them a second look, to slow and low tech but for the Traditionalists amongst us they could be the way to go So come on Border and any other UK bowyers a nice little project for you, re-invent the compound bow.. I wish i had a big workshop, i'm sure an old Border lightning riser would make a good platform for an experiment. _________________ JUST SHOOT IT Owlethall Bowmen Secretary

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:29 am Post subject:

I believe it's possible for the traditional archers to reach ahead while reaching back for a modern bow with traditional lines and feel, and I doubt arrow speed would play a part with these folks. However, I don't know if the high tech compound target shooters and hunters here in the U.S. would be so quick to accept this style of bow without a 300+ IBO speed? Target shooters possibly,,, hunters,,, maybe? You never know? It would not surprise me to someday see these bows classed in their own group. Perhaps that could be the best thing for them as it helps to create the demand for the bow through target usage... _________________ Joe(thebow)M

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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 1:05 am Post subject:

I agree entirely Joe, as for a different class i'd shoot one in Bowhunter class ( no sights n fingers), with a set of nice fat allys and a slick tab. With a few months practising gap shooting. Your in the kill Oh and it would have to have a two point Selway bow quiver I have been looking for a bow like this for a long time now, i feel i'm getting a little closer. I also like the idea of a one piece trad compound, like the old Browning and Darton bows, i think they where just heavy recurves cut down with wheels fitted. Although they where a little crude, i'm sure that with today's technology they could come up with a real nice one piece recurve compound. Do i sound like an obsessed crackpot or is anyone else interested in this kind of thing _________________ JUST SHOOT IT Owlethall Bowmen Secretary

Blackheart
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:10 am Post subject:

kirk wrote:

Do i sound like an obsessed crackpot or is anyone else interested in this kind of thing

Might just be us two, Kirk....

If I could justify getting a new pair of wood limbs for my old PSE Laser flite (47" axle to axle 50# with round wheels) I would still be shooting it today - even with it's "blistering" speed of 218 fps using lightspeed arrows.

Personally I prefer stability over speed and longer axle-length bows (30" draw shooting off fingers), so a slower bow would not bother me greatly.

I would look nice next to my Border Reiver....

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kirk
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:24 pm Post subject:

Blackheart wrote:

Personally I prefer stability over speed and longer axle-length bows (30" draw shooting off fingers), so a slower bow would not bother me greatly.
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I agree, personally i wouldn't shoot a compound under 40" and prefer 42"/45"
one of the best bows i owned was a 42" High Country target bow with smooth cams and recurve carbon limbs.

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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:52 am Post subject:

Steady on boys... such details, measurements, etc.. archery porn again... ooh err misses! _________________ Right, let's fire up the quattro...

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Blackheart
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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:52 am Post subject:

kirk wrote:

Blackheart wrote:

Personally I prefer stability over speed and longer axle-length bows (30" draw shooting off fingers), so a slower bow would not bother me greatly.
....

I agree, personally i wouldn't shoot a compound under 40" and prefer 42"/45"
one of the best bows i owned was a 42" High Country target bow with smooth cams and recurve carbon limbs.

My old Laserflite was 47" with a heady speed of 218 fps @ 50#....

The Cougar III Elite I am using now (42") is very good. Not had it speed tested, so don't know how fast it is (manufacturer quotes 320 fps, so it should not be very slow...)

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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject:

Methinks we each have our ideal bow somewhere in the backs of our heads; just wish mine wouldn't constantly be changing as things get closer to that "ideal". I get the feeling that several of us have some combination of modern tech with a traditional look in mind, eh? _________________ "For I have drawn Judah taut and applied [My hand] to Ephraim as to a bow." Zech. 9:13 http://www.freenations.freeuk.com/ http://www.melaniephillips.com/

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Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:01 pm Post subject:

Your not wrong Steve. look at the DAS now being marketed by the no1 traditional suppliers 3 Rivers, i have seen a few pics of this bow with snake skin backed limbs etc. The no1 Trad Tech recurve. Ok now we want a compound with the same ethos. _________________ JUST SHOOT IT Owlethall Bowmen Secretary