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Joe(thebow)M
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:01 am Post subject: The Book of Archery

I saw the follow book; (The Book of Archery - by George Agar Hansard) on Amazon.com, but unfortunately it did not say what it was about or give any reviews. If someone has this book could you give me an idea of what it's about and perhaps the 'Table of Contents'... I would appreciate it. Thanks! _________________ Joe(thebow)M

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:54 am Post subject: Re: The Book of Archery

Hi Joe

Here you go mate:

>>>>>>The Book Of Archery<<<<<<

Joe M wrote:

I saw the follow book; (The Book of Archery - by George Agar Hansard) on Amazon.com, but unfortunately it did not say what it was about or give any reviews.

If someone has this book could you give me an idea of what it's about and perhaps the 'Table of Contents'... I would appreciate it. Thanks!

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Joe(thebow)M
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject:

Thanks Jaselpool, I appreciate it! I see it was written in 1841. This is an area of interest for me as I have been reading what I can find about the Archers of that time period. It looks to be a great read and something that should be in my library. _________________ Joe(thebow)M

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fred
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject:

Hi Jo If you really want to know about LONGBOWS AND WARBOWS here are three books for you a must. Secrets of the ENGLISH WAR BOW ---HUGH D.H. SOAR THE GREAT WARBOW----Matthew Strickland & Robert Hardy LONGBOW----A social and military history---Robert Hardy All three ar a must for any serious longbow man FRED

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Joe(thebow)M
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject:

Thanks Fred! You must be a mind reader. I ordered two of the three books you list, just last night; The Great Warbow, and Secrets of the English Warbow... I also ordered; The Crooked Stick: A History of the Longbow They should arrive in a few days and then I'll have some quality reading! I will keep: LONGBOW----A social and military history---Robert Hardy, in mind and order this one the next time around. Thank you for the suggested reading. I can hardly wait for them to get here! _________________ Joe(thebow)M

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fred
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:

Joe there is one thing in the STATES SOMETIMES the diffination of a longbow differs to ours. the true Longbow/Warbow is "D"shape Self nocked or horn 6FT-7ft long.The first longbow I sent to the STATES the gentleman did want a flat bow,but he was well pleased and kept it and order a flatbow from me to.You may be an experiance archer and know the differance if so in that case sorry. Fred

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Joe(thebow)M
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:33 pm Post subject:

I had an idea of the difference Fred, but still my knowledge is way short of what the actual longbow should be. I do plan on another LB or two in the future and I will strive to get the correct LB as this is my area of interest. Thank you again my friend! I better get ready and head to work so I can earn some money to buy longbows! _________________ Joe(thebow)M

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject:

Joe M wrote:

Thanks Fred! You must be a mind reader. I ordered two of the three books you list, just last night;

The Great Warbow, and Secrets of the English Warbow... I also ordered; The Crooked Stick: A History of the Longbow

They should arrive in a few days and then I'll have some quality reading! I will keep: LONGBOW----A social and military history---Robert Hardy, in mind and order this one the next time around.

Thank you for the suggested reading. I can hardly wait for them to get here!

IF YOU HAVE THOSE BOOKS THERE IS NOTHING IN THE LONG BOW THAT IS NOT ALREADY COVERED
FRED
PS YOU DO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FLATBOW AND LONGBOW JUST ASKED

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:45 pm Post subject:

Fred, I have assumed (and I know a person shouldn't assume anything because it's usually wrong), that the 'flat bow' was either a bow with flat limbs (both sides), and/or a longbow with the outer part of the wood flat while the inner part of the bow wood was rounded. I was under the impression that an actual longbow was rounded and/or semi rounded on both sides of the wood with the inner side being shaped more round then the outer side? You need to tell me so I can be sure if it's one or the other, both, or neither of them. I don't have the books I ordered as yet, it will still be a few days before they arrive so any knowledge I can gain before they arrive will give me a better understanding of what I'm reading. To be quite honest I have never felt that the longbows I own that were made here in the States are exactly correct with a propper English Longbow design. My thanks for any information you can send my way. _________________ Joe(thebow)M

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject:

Hi JOE A flat bow has flat limbs but in the States these are SOMETIMES called long bows,which when I talk to people in the States I try to make sure we are taking about the same thing.A Victorian longbow is "D" Shaped handle binding and horn nocks A WARBOW is "D" NO HANDLE BINDING SELF NOCKED CAN HAVE HORN NOCKS THE BEST ARE YEW BUT A LAMINATE IS OK OR ASH- ELM when you get your books you will see the differance.I did say earlier I made that mistake a few years ago. FRED

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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:47 pm Post subject:

fred wrote:

Hi JOE A flat bow has flat limbs but in the States these are SOMETIMES called long bows,which when I talk to people in the States I try to make sure we are taking about the same thing.A Victorian longbow is "D" Shaped handle binding and horn nocks A WARBOW is "D" NO HANDLE BINDING SELF NOCKED CAN HAVE HORN NOCKS THE BEST ARE YEW BUT A LAMINATE IS OK OR ASH- ELM when you get your books you will see the differance.I did say earlier I made that mistake a few years ago.
FRED

Joe one last though over here there is one lot of WARBOW people who think you are a WHIMP OR GIRLIE IF YOU SHOOT ANYTHING LESS THAN 100lbs pull and 1/2" arrows.The stongest I have made was a 180lb it took two of us to tiller it and 3 to string it.
Fred

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:04 am Post subject:

FRED[/quote]Joe one last though over here there is one lot of WARBOW people who think you are a WHIMP OR GIRLIE IF YOU SHOOT ANYTHING LESS THAN 100lbs pull and 1/2" arrows.The stongest I have made was a 180lb it took two of us to tiller it and 3 to string it. Fred[/quote] Good greif Fred, 180 pounds! 100 pounds would be hard enough to pull I would think, but the 180lb staggers my mind... I have pulled up to a 65 pound bow with a lot of effort and something I don't care to do again. I'll stick with my #35, & #44 pound longbows and perhaps work up to something in the #48 to #54 pound range, but that's it for me. I don't think my muscles could handle anything with a heavier pull then that. Also, I would say that my bows are a 'Copy' (and only a copy) of the Victorian age longbow as they are "D" Shaped and the handle's are wrapped with a cord binding. They do not have 'horn nocks' as they are made of hickory so in this sense I would venture to say they could not be considered in the English Longbow class as they are not made of Yew, which in my understanding 'Yew' requires horn nocks? Am I on the right track? _________________ Joe(thebow)M

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:12 am Post subject:

NO mate you are right on for the longbow class.The heavy WARBOWS ARE ALSO IN LONGBOW CLASS but there is a lot of people over her are very very traditional and shoot the heavy bows at there own compations flight/roving/the mark/ and the wand just a few also normal field.I have a 80lder that was my max. When I pick up my longbow now it is either a 40ld self yew or laminate after 3 bad strokes and a few miner ones that is all i can manage nowdays Fred

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 12:52 pm Post subject:

Two of the three books I ordered should be arriving tomorrow, with the third book (The Crooked Stick) on Thursday according to Amazon. Ahh, the education is about to begin! _________________ Joe(thebow)M

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject:

GOOD READING Let me know if you need any imfo FRED

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